Monday, December 27, 2021

Flat Earthers who returned to sanity

I don't know if the couple in the first photo are flat-earthers or just t-shirt models, they're not the subject of this post, only the claim on their shirts is.
 
You frequently see things on forums like "once you go flat, you never go back" ...

.. so even one counterexample refutes that.  One often sees responses to these counterexamples (for example, in a comment to this post), that these people were never really flat Earthers, but they never post any evidence other than their having left flat Earth, see the No true Scotsman fallacy.  

To save having to look for the details each time someone claims this never happens, I'm putting them here.  

The first two former flat Earthers (FFEs) appeared on the SciManDan Podcast but they also show up again in the FTFE playlist at the bottom of this article.

The first is Craig Bryan Pennock, Seek Truth Speak Truth (STST)



I had previously written that his name was  Frank DiLeonardi, but Craig corrected me in a Facebook comment.  Now I'm wondering who Frank is and where I got his name and whether he has anything to do with this at all.

And this is Ranty (Flerfspective, this channel isn't available now, I don't know what's going on) who describes himself as a recovering flat Earther.  


Here is a video about a FFE who goes by the name "Johnny Orbital"



Here's a playlist, Interviews with Ex Flat Earthers, (currently 7 videos, although the last one is numbered 8) by FTFE (Fight The Flat Earth).  In addition to the previously mentioned STST and Ranty, it also has discussions with four more FFEs, Clear Cognition (Adam Doughty), Sean G, Blu, Jose G Gonzalez, and Promethean Kitchen.  Update: since I last looked at this playlist, added several short clips Rachie 00000 (see next paragraph)

YouTuber Rachie 00000 is another former flat-earther.  Here's a sample.  


This is an interview between Will Duffy from The Final Experiment and Amorel Lerner who used to support Eric Dubay on Patreon and got a tattoo of the Gleason map, but later left FE.





In contrast to people who used to really be flat-earthers, Noah Fox Burley (FOXX) was never a flat-earther, but used to pretend to be one.



Here's the Ex-flerfs category at Flerf Wiki.  I suppose I'll have to keep that list in sync with this one.

5 comments:

rockstardad said...

they never were flat earthers. scimandan is one of the biggest disinfo agents also

ttguy said...

They certainly were flat earthers. I followed Ranty, JG Gonzalez and Rachie. They all bought the whole thing.

Ron said...

So, rockstardad, tells us you really are a flat earther...without telling us...

Ron said...

I knew of Ranty and Rachie.... Rachie is actively supporting the globe. I'm not sure if Ranty, who recanted, has been around.

Rickybee said...

Bought the whole thing, I've known earth is flat for over 20 years, the water ball was cool n all but all those totally impossible things about it drove me to find out, telescopes n lasers showed me the truth.